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Don’t Call Obama a Socialist; He’s a Corporatist

On May 7, 2010, in Video, by FormerObamaSupporters

www.RonPaul.com – 04 Lately many have characterized this administration as socialist or having strong socialist leanings. I differ with this characterization. This is not to say Mr. Obama believes in free markets by any means. On the contrary, he has done and said much that demonstrates his fundamental misunderstanding and hostility toward the truly free market. But a closer, honest examination of his policies and actions in office reveals that much like the previous administration he is very much a corporatist. This, in many ways, can be more insidious and worse than being an outright socialist. Socialism is a system where the government directly owns and manages businesses. Corporatism is a system where businesses are nominally in private hands, but are in fact controlled by the government. In a corporatist state, government officials often act in collusion with their favored business interests to design policies that give those interests a monopoly position to the detriment of competitors and consumers. A careful examination of the policies pursued by the Obama administration and his allies in Congress shows that their agenda is corporatist. For example, the healthcare bill that recently passed has not established a Canadian-style government-run single-payer healthcare system. Instead it relies on mandates, forcing every American to purchase private health insurance or pay a fine. It also includes subsidies for low income Americans and government run healthcare

26 Responses to “Don’t Call Obama a Socialist; He’s a Corporatist”

  1. CoombesKidd says:

    @JizzonTheDark true, although in a way socialism has historically been a corporatist form of government, because it helps military spending and the central banks across Europe, as well as the entire cold war

  2. bluetablepainting says:

    The Revolution continues! Ron Paul’s book by the same name refers to the American Revolution.

  3. IRONMANAustralia says:

    @MrJ864759001 Hanging shit on people is just a cultural thing here and in the vast majority of cases shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

    The real issue is under the surface. Me supporting the right to bear arms for example, wouldn’t fail draw an overinflated comparison to gun violence in the US, (with no consideration of relative population I might add), by people who parrot that they “don’t want Australia to become like America”, with absolutely no deeper appreciation of what that means.

  4. NoLibertarian says:

    Paul is an asshole who just likes to label people. So here is my label for you Ron. KOOK!

  5. SublimeStoner says:

    @NoLibertarian I don’t have to say much about your comment, your name says it all, you don’t like freedom. Try to find truth my friend. For what you believe is true, challenge it; test yourself and try defending the opposite view. Search and you might find something you didn’t know was true, and then you might begin to see the bigger picture.

  6. 473009723 says:

    It is amazing to me how people can take the words of wisdom, turn them into some personal hit on their self, and then criticize the wisdom… and that only comes when government doesn’t heed the warnings of George Washington about having a two party system. Liberals, without a God, look at their party as their God…

    Mr. Paul, God Speed!

  7. MrWisePete says:

    Yeah corporatism is facism, its well discussed in prof Jeff grupp’s book Corporatism

  8. adelsmana says:

    @NoLibertarian um, good solid points there.

  9. tangledweb79 says:

    @NoLibertarian- Yeah, I hear ya. Nobama already has a cot saved for you at a prison camp. Soon we won’t sound so “kooky”. Ron Paul can save us. Don’t allow big bank & big corporation to decide what happens. Read the Constitution and know what your rights are so you know when they are being taken from you.
    If you’re not pissed off,you’re not paying attention. Please do some research.BTW the words “no” & “liberty” should never be put so close together!
    Wake Up.

  10. NoLibertarian says:

    @tangledweb79 ..LOL, prison camp?? Congratulations, you’re kookier than Paul. According to you assholes Bush was canceling the 08 elections and declaring martial law. You are a total bunch of lunatics. Absolutely bat shit insane.

  11. ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz says:

    i agree with ron paul, but socialism is peoples ownership of industry, if government is not sufficiently controlled by the people then its prettymuch a harder example of corporatism like what you see in some european countries, to call the obama administration socialist is to suggest that the current govt is working towards the interests of the majority (however misguided socialists may be you cant deny they have good intention), which isnt true, same old big corp loving govt

  12. Allamericom says:

    A failed corrupt Government is all around us.
    Want Health care? Bring home our troops DemoRepublican war mongers are one of the same
    End the Fed and the inside 911 war ploys will end with them
    Be a responsible free American not mongers accountable for Bigger Governmental wars.
    Benjamin Franklin (1706 – 1790)
    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Wake up America Bring home our troops Oh Ya YOU CANT ANYMORE

  13. jfl440 says:

    Ron Paul gets it. He’s one of the few who do.

  14. levity76 says:

    yeah, Paul’s right about this. People get caught up with Democrats vs Republican and ignore the fact that BOTH parties are beholden to corporate money. A big, powerful central government is dangerous to people because it is a concentration of unchecked power. The same is true with corporations, and this becomes worse when gov’t power and corporate power are allied, which is the case in our country. However, gov’t CAN be a PART of the solution, but ONLY when citizens are involved.

  15. levity76 says:

    I greatly really admire and support Ron Paul and his ideas. But listen: Those of you fellow supporters who say “only Ron Paul can save us,” are PART OF THE PROBLEM, and you’re missing his point. WE have to do it. Dr. Paul has been a great teacher of the ideas that are necessary to do this. He has said it himself: it’s the ideas that are popular and that matter. So man up (or woman up), and go DO something. Learn more. Teach more. Do more, whether it’s locally or nationally.

  16. levity76 says:

    @473009723 I’m a Ron Paul supporter, and I don’t think most liberals look to their party “as their God”. In fact, there is a tradition of a religious left in this country. (E.g. many religious folks actively supported that liberal civil right movement.) Besides, separation of church and state and religious tolerance are foundations of this country. So, stop worrying about people’s religion. Get off your self-righteous high horse.

  17. Psychosmurf547 says:

    @bradq This is either satire, or you’re completely insane. ^_^

  18. tangledweb79 says:

    @tangledweb79 Ok, you don’t know me, but you call me an asshole? For real?
    Take a look in the mirror,chump.

  19. SirPwn4lot says:

    Obviously he’s a Corporatist, just like every other president lol. He didn’t change anything. I’m no Rightwing Libertarian, but at least you know Ron Paul won’t sell out to the lobbyists. In the 08′ election I was actually closest to Dennis Kucinich, and I hold a leftist Libertarian ideology.

    The left or right wings aren’t anti-American, the Authoritarian wing is, whether that’s on the left (Communism) or the right (Corporatism).

  20. 1stardancer says:

    @NoLibertarian tangledweb79…is no lunatic, and the name calling doesn’t surprise me since that’s what is heard repeatedly from the libtards. Like he says…if you’re not pissed off, you’re not paying attention.

  21. chupomipito says:

    @NoLibertarian Darling there real, if you take some time to study whats wrong with this world instead of calling names on the internet then maybe you’ll come deep down in the rabbit hole, or maybe you’ll fight against it. Its your choice, choose wisley for my future and your next generation and so on.

  22. chupomipito says:

    @bigb47 Ahh you know Obama’s real name! haha

  23. plutocratarianism says:

    Yep, Corporatism is worse than Socialism, it’s Fascism and Socialism for the wealthy elites on Wall Street.

    Want more bailouts and bonuses for wall street? and taxpayers paying for it all?
    Keep that Corporatism coming!

  24. NoLibertarian says:

    @SublimeStoner ..I love freedom, I’m free as a bird.

  25. NoLibertarian says:

    @chupomipito .The camps are real, but they are not prison camps sweetie.

  26. Obama not a Socialist?

    Where did you get that stupid idea? What do you call someone who runs for office (Illinois Senator) in a wannabe Socialist Party a.k.a. NEW PARTY?

    The New Party which Obama ran under in 1994 was described as: “The paper wrote that the new party was “self-described [as] ‘socialist democratic.’”

    See: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913

    History doesn’t support your assertions.

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