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Obama Birth Certificate

On May 4, 2010, in Video, by FormerObamaSupporters

This video is for all those idiot birthers on Youtube. For everyone else, this is old news. The video summarizes FactCheck’s findings on the Obama birth certificate. FactCheck.org is a nonpartisan, nonprofit website that refutes false claims in the political realm. Here are the sources I reference for this video: www.factcheck.org www.politifact.com

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  1. ekimadams says:

    @ekimadams Vattels Influence on the term
    a Natural Born Citizen
    § 212. Of the citizens and natives.

  2. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    Interesting. Sounds like Emmerich de Vattel’s “Law of Nations”, who was a Swiss philosopher, yet you totally disregard and ignore the US Code and 14th Amendment regarding Citizenship.

  3. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    Where did you copy and paste this from?

    “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”

    “Les Naturels ou indigènes font ceux qui font nés dans le pays de Parens Citoyens”

    You did know that “Law of Nations” was written in French, right?

    Originally published in French in 1758. Although translated several times, the phrase “natural born citizen” did not appear until the London translation of 1797

    Cont’d

  4. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    The Consitution was written TEN YEARS BEFORE that translation. So unless the Founders had a silver Delorean time machine, it is impossible that they got the phrase NBC from de Vattel.

    Also, de Vattel only referenced two types of citiznship.

    Naturalized (alien born)
    or
    Citizen at birth (natural born)

    Since you cite de Vattel, you must agree with that there are only 2 citizen types.

  5. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    Let me add that since Obama isn’t a naturalized citizen, he is a citizen at birth (Natural Born Citizen)

  6. ekimadams says:

    The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its

    authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the

    country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the
    children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their
    rights.

  7. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    Since you cited de Vattel again, I take it to mean that you agree with him that there are only two citizenship types…. Naturalized (alien born) and Citizen at birth (natural born).

    Since Obama didnt have to naturalize, he is a citizen at birth or… a natural born citizen.

    I’m glad we agree.

  8. ekimadams says:

    @arrrogantlyignorant The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the

    country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the
    children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their
    rights.

  9. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    Is there some point that you keep copy and pasting the same thing over and over?

    You just validated what I’ve felt all along. You are incapable of intelligent discussion.

    As I said before, it was my mistake to respond to your question. My bad.

  10. Neuromancer1970 says:

    In my opinion, if someone is born in the country and has at least one parent who was a US citizen at the time of birth then that child is an NBC. For me, the definition gets blurred if neither parent was a US citizen.

    I’d like to be able to quote court cases, examples, etc but I’ve been really busy with RL stuff lately so, I haven’t had the time to do more research.

  11. oxjr says:

    wow this is so f-ing racist, did anyone ask Bush or Clinton or Regan etc etc for their birth certificate??? They all looked pretty Canadian to me.

  12. ekimadams says:

    Benjamin Franklins (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
    I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations.

  13. ekimadams says:

    Vattel in Bk 1 Sec 212, states the following.
    § 212. Citizens and natives.

    The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

  14. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    Did you not READ anything I posted?

    What you are citing here did not get translated as such until TEN YEARS AFTER the Constitution was created. “Natural Born Citizens” did not appear in a translation of Vattel’s work until 1797. It was not in the original French text either.

  15. ekimadams says:

    Lets see who would you rather rely on Emmerich de Vattel who wrote the “Law of Nations” and was referred to many times by the founding fathers or someone who refers to themselves (accurately) as arrogant and ignorant?

  16. ekimadams says:

    Did you not READ anything I posted?

    No not really.

  17. ekimadams says:

    Benjamin Franklins (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
    I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations.

  18. ekimadams says:

    If someone had a website claiming that the moon was actually made of cheese would you spend a lot of time trying to refute that claim? I doubt it. So why do you troll the web making comments about this issue? I hope they are paying you well.

  19. 1generalk says:

    Obama is not his real name and he will not last . He is usurper and his name is berry soetero and he is Indonesian citizen . There isn’t any record that he ever legally changed his name. So, not only is Obama’s citizenship the center of major controversy This is what makes ineligible to be the presaident.Hes a fake just like the liberal left.
    Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics….Even if you win you’re still retarded.

  20. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @1generalk

    Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. His step fathers name was Lolo Soetoro. He never legally changed his name in the first place, which is why there is no record of him changing it back.
    Only a completely clueless idiot would believe the crap you’re trying to claim as fact.

  21. Neuromancer1970 says:

    @1generalk You’ll have to apologize to Sarah Palin for using the word “retarded” as a disparaging remark. :P

  22. ekimadams says:

    @arrrogantlyignorant Please tell us how you know obama was never an Idonesian citizen?

  23. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    Read the applicable US Imigration and Indonesian Citizenship laws. Its fairly obvious.

  24. ekimadams says:

    @arrrogantlyignorant Like the law that says only an Indonesian citizen can attend school in thier country?

  25. arrrogantlyignorant says:

    @ekimadams

    No, that one exists only in your mind. Cite it please, then I might actually start taking you seriously.

  26. dennish says:

    Umh…Does not matter were born. Dad was a British citizen, i.e. Obama does not pass “natural born” Constitution clause…

    So people with opposing views are “idiots”? Very open minded…

  27. redd says:

    factcheck and politifact both are commie sites. Why do they say obama met bill ayers in 1995? Why did the commie usurper say in 2008 that he knew ayers 10 or 15 years earlier when he knew ayers many years before that? There is a witness that saw obama at the tom ayers house in 1985. Michelle worked with bernadine dohrn in 1988 in chicago. Obama worked with bill ayers in chicago in 1988. Go read the manchurian president by aaron klein and try to learn something. fact check? bwahahahahahhahaah!!!!!!

  28. pedrick says:

    Michelle Obama is also a birther. A video has been posted online in which Michelle Obama, at a 2007 fundraiser, describes her husband as “Kenyan.”

    The statement from the now-first lady adds weight to another video revealed earlier in which she describe Kenya as Barack Obama’s “home country.”

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